Gabby Bernstein – The Universe Has Your Back


Welcome to the Emerging Women Grace and Fire podcast where we hear from the brilliant women leaders creating big change in the world. I’m Chantal Pierrat, your host, and I want to know who out there is working with fear? If your hand didn’t shoot up, call me now, because I feel like fear is a universal reality among women who are playing big, creating change, and dedicated to living a life of personal truth.

If it’s not in the stresses of work, of stepping into our leadership, of owning our true selves, it’s in the fear-fraught news and media coverage of global events. It affects our choices, our decisions, and more than anything I created Emerging Women so that we can all know that we have to face fear to grow, but we don’t have to face it alone.

That’s why I’m so excited to have New York Times bestselling author and next-generation thought leader Gabby Bernstein on our podcast. She has written a book so timely – just its title makes me breathe a huge sigh of relief. The Universe Has Your Back is Gabby’s fifth book, and one she says she wrote just as much for herself as for her readers.

Today we talk about what she calls “her shittiest year,” and how she embodied the practices in her book to heal herself through it. She shares a few of those practices with us, including a powerful “reset button” called Forgiving the Thought and her 2 “go-to” steps for releasing fear-based blocks and becoming a joy magnet. Humility, connection, authenticity – it’s all here.

So get ready to become your own alchemist and transform fear into faith with the fierce and fabulous Gabby Bernstein.

Janet Mock – Redefining Realness


Welcome to Emerging Women’s Grace & Fire podcast where we hear from the brilliant women leaders creating big change in the world.

I’m Chantal Pierrat, your host, and I can’t wait to dive in to this week’s conversation with the fabulous Janet Mock, author of Redefining Realness and host of the weekly culture show SoPOPular! on MSNBC.

Janet and I talk about her story as a “blueprint for life” for a young black trans person of color, how she defines courage, and what’s inherently bizarre about binary gender norms. We consider the power of “discussing things we pretend we’re too smart to like,” like trashy tv shows and celebrity gossip. And Janet just nails it down when I ask her what vision she has for those of us who are no longer willing to compromise what we know to be true on the inside in order to maintain the mask we put on for survival.

Hells yes. Let’s get to it – this week’s Grace & Fire podcast “Redefining Realness” with the brilliant and beautiful Janet Mock.



Awesome bonus news: You can see Janet Mock in person! She’ll be joining us at Emerging Women Live 2016 in San Francisco. This is the last month to save $400, so invest in yourself NOW!

Glennon Doyle Melton – Love Warrior


I am feeling my full Warrior energy after speaking with Glennon Doyle Melton. She is the bestselling author of Carry On, Warrior and founder of, and her new book Love Warrior launches in just a few weeks and without a doubt will be yet another best-seller.

Her writing is simultaneously hilarious and vulnerable – full of raw, unabashed realness on everything from addiction to motherhood to marital infidelity. And though “she writes simply as a way to survive,” she says, her words are powerful and resonate with readers who have found themselves “on the bathroom floor” in their own ways.

I love that she’s also a fierce movement-maker, full of outward action to help people in need. Glennon is the creator of Together Rising, a non-profit organization that has raised over four million dollars for families around the world through its Love Flash Mobs, which have revolutionized online giving.

I can’t wait to hear what she has to share on the stage at Emerging Women Live 2016 this October – it’s going to be juicy if this podcast is any indication. Glennon and I talk about:

  • “Being Underneath” and the dangers of treating pain like a hot potato
  • The benefits of a tender, feminine faith that isn’t rule-bound
  • The feeling of being evicted from your whole life, and what comes next
  • How society colors the way we are able to give and receive love
  • How to view women as warriors rather than helpers

Let’s dive in to this week’s Grace & Fire conversation “Love Warrior” with the self-proclaimed Recovering Everything: Glennon Doyle Melton.


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The Moonshot Effect – Kate Purmal & Lisa Goldman

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I recently learned a new word that I LOVE: moonshot. It sounds so feminine, but with this deep undercurrent of disruption of the status quo.

Inspired by President Kennedy’s massive efforts to put a man on the moon, a “moonshot” is a barely achievable initiative that demands extraordinary effort and teamwork to achieve. It’s an initiative that’s definitely not possible with “business as usual” – you have to completely transform ways of working and collaboration and performance in order to make it happen. And the most exciting part? The widespread effects of a moonshot are often world-changing in a way no one could have imagined.

Kate Purmal and Lisa Goldman are wildly accomplished leaders who have many decades of moonshot experience between them. They’ve led, guided and inspired companies from Apple to through successful moonshot launches, and have brought that expertise to bear in their new book The Moonshot Effect: Disrupting Business as Usual, a step-by-step “How To” for moonshot projects, and also just an indispensable guide to leadership in general.

I had the pleasure of talking to Kate and Lisa to help us wrap our heads around the catalyzing topic of . We covered:

  • The Moonshot Effect and its radical ability to galvanize people into action around a world-changing idea
  • The stages, timeline and ripple effect of a moonshot
  • Two crucial practices of bold, outrageous visionaries
  • Tips for sourcing power from your body and language
  • The difference between being humble and being a courageous Hero-Maker

So let’s dive in to this week’s Grace & Fire conversation “Moonshot” with chronic game-changers Kate Purmal and Lisa Goldman.

Marianne Williamson – Tears to Triumph


Today my guest is Marianne Williamson, the internationally acclaimed spiritual author and lecturer. Six of her eleven published books have been New York Times Best Sellers. Four of these have been #1. The mega best-seller A Return to Love contains the famous paragraph, beginning “Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure.” The depth of this sentiment is staggering, especially for women.

Marianne founded Project Angel Food, a meals-on- wheels program that serves homebound people with AIDS in the Los Angeles area. She also co-founded the Peace Alliance, and serves on the Board of Directors of the RESULTS organization, working to end the worst ravages of hunger and poverty throughout the world.

Her weekly lectures in New York City are available via Livestream on her website, where you will also find loads of other amazing content to radically transform your life.

And the great news: Marianne will be a featured presenter at the 2016 Emerging Women Live Event in San Francisco, October 13th -16th!

In Marianne’s recent book: Tears to Triumph: The Spiritual Journey from Suffering to Enlightenment she argues that we—as a culture and as individuals—have learned to avoid facing pain. By doing so, we are neglecting the spiritual work of healing.

In this episode, Marianne and I spoke about:

  • The age we are living in: “Age of the Choir”
  • How Depression is addressed in our culture and the transformative power of the Dark Night of the Soul
  • The barrage of meaninglessness that literally “bruises the Spirit” occurring in our world today, and how it is essential to heal the spirit on our journey toward wholeness
  • How miracles are actually thoughts and how to navigate our emotions
  • Forgiveness, and how it can be a bridge between our inner work and what we create in the world.

After we recorded this podcast, Marianne wanted me to pass along the important message to anybody taking medication for depression, mental illness or other pain:  Marianne strongly recommends that should you desire to alter your medication, or get off them altogether, that you do so under the strict supervision and consultation of your doctor. 

Here is my conversation “Tears to Triumph” with the fabulous torch-bearer of Spirituality: Marianne Williamson.